'Love Is Love' With TikTok Stars Pierre Boo And Nicky Champa
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'Love Is Love' With TikTok Stars Pierre Boo And Nicky Champa

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This week on Pride, we're embracing the Valentine season and chatting with a TikTok power couple who have the ability to make their followers swoon with the press of one upload button. TikTok superstars Nicky Champa and Pierre Boo have amassed an audience of nearly 24 million across their platforms. But being in a same-sex relationship in the public's eye comes with its challenges. Today, Nicky and Pierre share with us their love story, their highs and lows, and how they navigate the pressure to be perfect online. 

Be sure to follow Nicky & Pierre on TikTok! Your host is Levi Chambers, co-founder of Gayety. Follow the show and keep up with the conversation @Pride. Want more great shows from Straw Hut Media? Check out or website at strawhutmedia.com. Your producers are Levi Chambers, Maggie Boles, Ryan Tillotson and Edited by Silvana Alcala Have an interesting LGBTQ+ story to share? We might feature U! Email us at lgbtq@strawhutmedia.com. *This podcast is not affiliated with Pride Media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Straw media. We didn't realize that we had the same acting manager, and so I go to this audition and he walks into the room and I'm like just mesmerized by his beauty and I was like, I didn't think he was into guys. I thought he just was so beautiful. I was like, you know, it would, that would be a miracle if, like he whatever consider me. Valentine's Day is fast approaching, which means your local grocery store is overrun with red rose flower arrangements, heart shaped boxes of chocolates and a variety of fluffy, pink stuffed animals. It also means your instagram feed is filled with couples posting photos awkwardly Kissing, candle lit dinners for too and an unbelievable number of coordinated monochromatic outfits in a wide range of Ruby Hughes. We kit you won't find a Valentine's Day cent acre. Oh No, not on pride. We embrace the season of love, which is why we wanted to bring you a real, modern day love story of two men you may think you know from their viral tick tocks or clever youtube videos, but we have a feeling they might surprise you. Today we're chatting with Social Media Power Couple Nicky Champa and Pierre Boo, who have the ability to make their millions of followers swoon collective lie and just might make you believe that real love is in the air, or, in this case, online. Hey, you guys. Hey, we're going to play a game of our first, first competedition. While these two love birds may seem to have it all, being the same sex couple in the public eye comes with its challenges. Today, Nicki and Pierre Share with us their love story, their highs and most and how they navigate the pressure of being perfect online. Hey, I'm Nikki and...

I'm pier and this is pride. So where did you guys meet? So we met at a movie audition and it's funny the story. We tell it so many times, but it's a pretty funny story. Nikki and Pierre were two aspiring actors who followed their dreams and moved to, you guessed, at Los Angeles, California. For Nicki, the move meant a long plane ride from New York to the West Coast, but for Pierre, who was born and raised in Paris, France, the movement facing the shocking reality of being an immigrant in America. That used to watch old movies of Holywood Stars with my grandmother, that was a big fan of Holywood stars, and that was always a dream for me to come to Ess angels because of those memories that I have with my grandmother and also because I wanted to be an actor and I studied acting Dan seeing an art in Paris and I came huge just I jumped into it without knowing where I was going, without knowing where I was going to stay or what I was going to do. I was very young to had no idea about the whole immigration process or anything, and I just decided to move to a lie with the visitor visa tucked away in his carry on. Pierre moved into a hostel in the US. When he told his peers of his plans to stay in the states, they broke the news to him about the logistics of moving to America. I thought you could just come here and stay. I didn't know you needed a visa for that or anything. And they're like no, no, no, it doesn't happen like that. That's beautiful. We're thinking. Was Not happening like that. It's not like and I sit in a hostel for the three first days, and actually I said to the hostel for six months, but like the three first days...

...at the side, stay at hostel, and and then he little by little, I decided to stay and I fear out ways to stay and and I met this beautiful young man on my long journey, long journey. In two thousand and seventeen, Nicki and Pierre were both sitting in a waiting room preparing for an audition that would hopefully be their ticket into Hollywood. But what neither of them expect it was to find love. So I texted my manager and I was like this beautiful guy walked into the room and I don't, do you know anything about him? So he's like send me a picture of him. So I like kind of snuck a picture like a writ I kind of in between my legs, like that sounds weird, like over my kny, like like kind and I caught my boot in it, which would come to be like how he knew it was me. Yeah, and so I sent him the picture, my manager, and then I didn't hear anything back. It was like I was texting him and like the three dots showed up and then they went away and then I heard someone's phone go off in the room, phone and I look over and he's looking at his phone. And when I got the picture, and then my manager, our manager, texted me was like he's my client here, like I just sent him the picture, go talk to him, and I was like, Oh my God, I was so embarrassed and just I wanted to die. And then like also like the pre audition nerves. I was like I just kill me. This is like too much for me to handle. So I kind of like hit in my in my in my lines, and then and then I see him get up and he came over to me and to say hi. Yeah, I was like so, because my version of this story is the same. It's just I also saw him on the Corn Room when I first got in, but he was very much into his phone. He was just looking at his phone and I got that picture and I recognize, Oh my God, it's the boot off this guy that I think is. It's it's the same boot. Is it this guy? But I was surprised because is he did not...

...look at me once. Or I think you're shy, right, a very bitchy yeah, so I thought he was shy and I was like, well, let meach, just make the first step and go say hi, because if you have only one life, it would be stupid to let this you know, and the rest is the sorry. Yes, what movie was this? Can you say what it was that you're auditioning for? It was they not everybody asked this. It was like kind of just a dumb like in the I don't even know. And the what's funny is, like know, we both auditioned and I got all the way to the end of the movie and then it got canceled, like the movie just like lost funding or something, and and then what like we got each other, and so that was like the best it was in that was the outcome. Yeah, that was that was the that was the purpose, I think. So, yeah, adorable. Right. That movie May Have Gotten canceled, but the way these two found each other should be a movie on its own. Since the two met in two thousand and seventeen, Nikki and Pierre have documented their love story online through short, thirty second videos posted to their tick tock accounts. From silly pranks to skits highlighting their cultural differences, the stars have a way of pulling on their audiences hard strings, but navigating the world of social media through a consumers perspective is difficult. Separating what is honest from what is staged has become more challenging as these social platforms grow and expand. How much of this picture perfect romance is authentic? I would say all the like funny shit and stuff that we do is like or like the things that we've kind of used in ticktock format as like things that we discovered together. Now, obviously it's like formulate, formulated into a tick tock way, like you know you have, and it's played up for community value. But like a lot of like funny shit happens to us and we also have very beautiful moments that were like this feels not real, it's so nice and great and yeah, it's it's...

...really nice. I think the turning point that we're in now and what we're trying to focus on with Youtube, is to kind of move past the fifteen second, twenty five second beautiful glimpses or hilarious glimpses and show like really real moments and like show that, like our relationship is not butterflies and roses. Seven like relationships take work and we put a lot of work into ours. I mean we spend literally seven together and that's not easy. And then, on top of it the social media. It's another layer of like toxicity that we have to to navigate through and help each other through. Yes, I would say we also have to entertain, right, and we have a very short time to entertain on ticktock. But what we usually do is that we inspire ourselves from our own personalities. That sometime we have to multipy, you know, about three or four, yeah, maybe ten, I don't know. But like, we just like we just take it in a way that is entertained inning but everything that we do, yes, is definitely based on the reality, yeah, of the happiness that we have to be together so many times. What you don't get to see in a tick tock relationship are the arguments that occur off camera because, let's be honest, all relationships have them. These are so personal that it would be hard to take a camera and then just, yeah, try to record that because we would shut up right away. But we're working on it. But we working on it on a more longer format kind of video. Yeah, because we would need at that moment somebody to film for us so we can stay focus on our feelings and on the conversation we had. Yeah, because that would be a bit hard to just share that on ticktock. Yes, and HMM. Needless to say, there's a lot about Nikki and Pierre the world doesn't get to see, like how energized Pierre is in the morning. I mean, when I wake up next to Nicholas, he has to take me down because I'm kind...

...of in the morning. I'm very happy person. So I'm very like and love they and of nauseous. I'm that kind of person that loves that way. So it's definitely real. Yeah, it's easy to forget when you're consuming hours worth of content from a creator that this is only a small window into their life, but Internet rolls love to pretend they know everything about anything. We get a lot of comparation because queen the two of us. Yeah, so whoever is the better one, whoever's the prettiest one, wheveries the that is already very toxic, or who's who's better for each other? Right, it's better if I oh, here doesn't deserve nick, or Nick doesn't deserve like that. Shit bothers me. Yeah, most of the time, the couple can push the toxic comments aside and move on, but every once in a while someone will say something that will strike a nerve. I think what really tends to be a point of conflict between us is like when those comments or attacks or controls kind of touch on something personal that you're struggling with, or I'm struggling with that. I've had traumatic experiences in the past based on sometimes we joke in there, like they really know how to get at us, you know, like how it's all hit those points of like really the Oh, you found the sweet spot it is. It's the comments that matches or that go parallel with your inner dialog or if we call in their judgments of yourself, then that's when it hits hard, because then you know, you think automatically. So I was right, I'm I, yeah, I am actually acting like a baby or like I am not acting the way I should act at my age. And and it's hard already to tame those voices inside of ourselves. So when we receive it from the outside world, it's seven harder to do that work when ourselves, you know, we call it them nervous nry. Yes, the nervous nrs, it don't lead into the...

...nervous narrative. Sharing your relationship with the public comes with many side effects. Sharing your same sex relationship with the public comes with even more side effects. But Pierre and Nikki's say they are determined to create a loving environment where other queer kids can feel like they're not so alone. I've saw a lot of lgbtq love stories being so traumatic and sad and like have really, really deep struggle, and so when we kind of were given and built this this platform, I think it's both of our mission to not necessarily lean into that. Like it happens, and we talked about it, but I feel like we really want to portray like and because it most of the time it is this for us, like that you can find happiness in an LGBTQ relationship, like you can have that that dream that the media in the world portrays for straight people, you know what I mean. So I feel like that's something we constantly are like. You know, this situation sucks and yes, we have a responsibility to share that we are struggling at times with our mental health or whatever it is, you know, but it's also really important to not lean into that too much, because that's also not who we are as people. Like we like to lean into the hope and the positivity and yeah, you know, and like really portray that, because that's really important for us. And Yeah, and I think it's also really important to show that to the kids that follow us, because there's a lot of kids that you can get through this. It's just work, you know. Yes, but at the end of the day, I have to say I'm very, very happy that we actually got that exposure because of the happy moment. Yeah, this is good, because that would be but if it was always about the bad moments, yeah, because then we would make not the image that we wanted for our community and and what we want inspire youngsters out there to to, you...

...know, be themselves without fear. It's not about being the best gay couple on the Internet. Nikki says he prefers to not label his relationship. The truth isn't for me, I've never felt gay enough and I've never felt straight enough and I've never felt because I've had a long term relationship with a girl before Pierre, I never I just I felt like I never belonged to something, I never felt like anything really like grabbed me other than just being myself, you know, and without having to define it. And so for me personally, that's like my truth, like that's what I that's me. You know, I one hundred percent understand that for a lot of people, having that identity has been gay or having that labeled whatever makes them feel empowered and part of something, and I respect that and I love that. I just think that going forward in life, I think that at one point we're all going to have these labels and names and the reality is is we just want to be loved and we want to have love and we want to be accepted for who we love and accepted for who we are, and I think that's just the most important thing. When we come back the misconceptions of queer relationships and a little trouble on the ski slopes. If you're familiar with Niki and Pierre's content, you know they're always running around and making each other laugh. Their lighthearted content can make even the darkest day seem just a little brighter. As I've we were doing research on just all of a lot of videos and things that you've done that have done really well, and I found that your I think, in the concept is called, guess that Fart. If you don't mind just kind of describing this, this content formula, as you put it, and who came up with that and doesn't work where it? We're going to be like completely honest, like I think it's the French. I don't know if they like and I'm Italian. I feel like we always I...

...don't know, we just it's just a freefall sometimes, and so I think we were like, well, we've did together for four years, almost five years, five years. It's like that would be very unhealthy for had to hold our force for that long. Yeah, this is so, if it's just David gonna get out. They like it's funny. Like we talked to our managers sometimes, like when wherever we're like on a project of stuff, like like, for example, we were shooting something at our house and we kept running up starts to our bedroom and like like I was like here she's thinking we're doing something like getsy in the bathroom and I'm like no, we're just going to Fart. Sorry. Basically, they started pulling out their phone when they had to Fart, but not before they ask their partner. What kind of Fart is it going to be. It was something that was going on on Ticktock, and we were like, I think that's that's a far out. I think that we would do in your relationship. You've been together four years. Did at some point. There's like the first fart. Who Was it? And it was here, it was me, it was here. I think. What's it? Awkward? Like? No, so Osper my stories in the new show. Your like it. So I was like one of the first nights I was sleeping at his apartment and the first time he walked out and I was like, where are you going? He's like I had to part. I was like okay, and then the second time, I think it was like that night you just parted on me when we were like spooning. It was when we spent yeah, and I was like all right, like we're on that level. Now it's like like three weeks in and we're on that level. So I don't mind. I thought it was cute. So then, okay, on the same note. Then with the first part, who's the first one to say I love you, Pire, Pire, but long time into it I wanted to say I love you since like the first weekend, but I knew with him the way he was pacing things out. I was like I'm not. I like definitely had this conversation with myself where I was like I cannot say at first, I have to let him come to me because he's getting out of like a serious relationship...

...prior to me and he's had a many heartbreaks. And I was like I just don't want to. He's got it, he can and he said very bluntly, he's like I have to learn your I have to earn you have to earn my trust. Like you, I need time with you. I need years, any months, I need time with you. Si know that I mean. But truthfully, I respected it because I didn't say it. You know, Pierre was recovering from a long line of heartbreak and didn't think he was ready to launch into a relationship, but then he met Nikki. So when I came to meet Nicholas, I was not ready for it. I was I was still hurting, I was still healing myself and I did have no idea at that point if I actually could heal, and honestly, I was at that point. I do not I give up. I give up. I will just, you know, have my sneak healings. That's how they say. Nothing sneak healings on the side and that's it. I will just do that. But Nicholas, through his vision of seeing love and through his way, because he was twenty one when I met him, his way of seeing and fantasizing about love, it kind of made me remember how I would fantasize about it too, and it kind of touch me in a way, you know. So I feel like he kind of took my hand into this and, although he had to pull very hard on me to go, to get to his point, I eventually got to that point and I like sure, he was like, let's do it, let's try it, you know, miss do it again. So I waited six months and he told me, I love you, but you were ready, like when you were taking the foot of the boot. You were ready at that point. Yeah, like it's slipped out. I think it's Ok for where. I was like love you, and I'm like, you know, I'm sorry, but yeah, he took we so I took him to my mom's house for the first time in the summer of like two thousand and seventeen, and we were sleeping in her bed because she was sleeping in the guest room because she had a bigger event and he told me, I love you, and my...

...mom's bed. So I thought that was hilarious. I'm sure if she's listening, she's like that's kind of cute. YEA, though Nicki and Pierre feel the support from their millions of followers every day, they get a lot of pushback from older generations regarding their relationship. I think we've all been conditioned a little bit that we're somehow disadvantaged for being lgbtq. Like there's a disadvantage. You're not going to have a real love story, you're not going to have kids. I mean the true, the truth. This is like when I came out to my mom, like that was the first thing she said to me was like, Um, I'm nervous, I'm so worried about your happiness and you're not going to find love and you're not going to have kids. And like even I had family member saying to me, like how are you gonna appeal to teen girls in for if you want to be an actor? Like, how are you going to appeal to these demographics when they know you're sleeping with the men? Well, it's funny. Now is most of our demographic is women and team reels. It's just, you know, I think what we've been conditioned into believing is that we're going to fail, that were our relationships are not going to work if there is no love story for us, and I think that's what pushed both of us to be like fuck that, like we can make that happen. You know, let's do it, let's let's let's try at least, you know, and again, stop putting us in cases and boxes. Yeah, I'm sure that it is many, many people out there that would live their true and real life and if they were just being more flexible with ourselves, get out of the boxes and and being a world where it's celebrated. You know, remember earlier when we spoke about the occasional arguments Nicki and pre get into. Sometimes the anger you feel in the moment makes everything more tense and a bad situation can get worse, like when Nikki took pre skiing in Colorado. So I grew up going to Bell Colorado skiing. I grew up skiing like I'm good at it. It's...

...like kind of second nature. I could stop skiing and just pick it up. I learned skiing very, very young and I don't remember the process of learning skiing. I just know that I can ski. So just keep that in the back of the thought of your, E. Everybody's head when I'm telling the story. So we get our skis and we go skiing and it started off really good, like I took him to the Bunny Bunny Hill just to get him like he's never ski before, and he was really good, like he was. He was catching along, like really well, and it was still doing your like pizza, French fries, pizza, French tries, your yes, and he was even making hard burns, like he was doing really good. But then it took a turn for the worst when they ventured up the Gondola and started exploring some actual snowy terrain. I learned a lot that trip and that argument, like we have a lot of constructive arguments, and so I selfish, Lily, was not prioritizing you. I was just wanting to ski, and I that was my mistake and I take ownership of it. So I really wanted to selfishly get started and skiing. You know, I haven't been skiing in so long and it was like always a dream to bring like my you know my love to resist my childhood, and so we start and there was moments where like, oh, okay, the Green Circle, which is supposed to be the easiest, looks a bit scary. It's intimidating and it was to so I leve. So he crashes into the side. No, so I can't stop. And those things, the Nice easy runways that he's stuck catwas is that there's what it doesn't say is that on the other side it's the kind of the heel. If if you fall from that cat walk, off you fall, you die. Can You mentione distress? So I cannot. I cannot see the stress of dying, and so I can't write thing without breaks. Then Pierre took a tumble and he was not a fan of how Nikki reacted. And the only thing I see when I wake up from my fall is my boyfriend. I forget me,...

I'm the sorry, I'm sorry, and him Melife. It was fucking funny, though. It was like he fellato. It was like because, like when you fall skiing, there's a thing called like a y worst. It's the worst, but it's also funny. You know, you skis get out, yes, because people who are good at skiing don't fall. I know they don't. I'm sorry, I sound like the asshole. I'm so sorry. So it's very, very ARD to stand up. And then at that point I'm like, why did you laugh? This is not what I expect you from just so I expect from you. I'm expecting you know, like really like reassuring me, Yees, boarding me and hopping me up, and so I get a bit my at this point, but I'm like, okay, let's keep going. And then this point I fell again and yeah, I'm already exhausted. No, I cannot get up. I cannot get up anymore. And after like three, four times, I felt I can't get up. So I decide to take off my ski the good time forever, and I decide to walk down the hill. They were not very close to the bottom at all. So Nikki tried to help her get down the hill by taking a snowmobile. Well, that didn't go very well either. There's nothing more frustrating that when you you trying not to be humiliated and you're trying to be like, okay, I'm going to try it, I might get on the mobile thing, but maybe later. And it's just when we forced you. It's like it's like we forced you to do something. You know, it's like we take you for you, take you away from your from your mission. I don't know. It's like I hear you. I don't know, but it was coming from a good place. They did get to the bottom of the mountain by snowmobile and everything was resolved through open communication and, of course, tacos. It's just, you know, it's just conflicts. said the things, then the conflicts. You cannot resolve it right away. It's not like you can do this and then your feelings are going to...

...go away. You just need time and we took time. We ate something that helps to tacos. Yeah, T S, tacos a bottom tacos are always good. Yeah, good. So I think my last question for both of you, yes, one is and you can both answer separately, but what do you love most about the other and if there's one critically important thing that you've learned from that person, from him to either of you, what is the most important thing that he's taught you? So, for Nicholas, what I love the most about him is that he is the person that cared the most ever about me that I've ever met. This is really the truth is that he was, from the get go, willing to be so open to a relationship, open to the love story, open to everything's possible. He takes my hands, tells me this is possible, you can do it. I believe in you. You can do this, you can do that. Has Been The most supportive person I've ever met. I mean, my sounds cheesy, but it's just like the most, the best thing that happened to me so far. For the tread of his personality that I like the most. It's his end too. Enthusiast, enthusiasm, enthusiasm. This is enthusiasm for life. It's it's a breath of fresh air for me, and specially of the place I was. It was and it still is a breath of fresh air every day. My life is enthusiasm. Yes, Pierre is going to make you cry when it is time to do some vowels or something. It's going to be bad. I Oh, no, I know. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Okay, that's that's really that was sweet. That's a true you're so sweet for Pierre. I am at Pierre Very...

Young, very immature, and still am in so many ways. What I love about him the most is that. One is that he has a sweetness about him and an ability to see life in a way that I've never met anybody who could see life this way. Just a genuine sweetness that is so pure and like so hard to create and to like it's just embedded in his like he will pick up a spider that's crawling around the house and move it outside so it doesn't get stepped on. Like just one of the sweetest, most genuine people I've ever met. And that sweetness helped me become a sweeter person and carried over into me who I was somebody and still am working on it. But when I met him I was filled with, you know, kind of anger and resentment and like I wanted to prove people wrong and you know, I was coming from a childhood that was not necessarily easy. and He, you know, like he says I did to him, he did the same for me. He took my hand and he basically said I'm going to help you work through all this and find your inner, inner younger boy, and find that you know that those that's that sweetness in you, and he really never gave up on that and he still doesn't and he's just so patient and I'm just so genuinely lucky to have somebody that is willing to not, you know, give up on me who I know at times can be extremely difficult and extremely annoying, and just he I'm just insanely lucky to have you all. Thank you. Sorry, now I'm regret and what I learned from him the most is that what I most valuable thing that I've learned is...

...just his patients. You know, this guy's been through so much fucking shit and it's life and to have the patients to kind of carry on and to be the sweet person. It's just like it's incredible. It's just unworldly, unworthy. Niki and Pierre Continue to grow as a couple and as social media influencers every day. You can find their separate and combined accounts on Ticktock, instagram and Youtube. Oh and if you're looking for a Valentine's Day gift, it might be a little late, but the couple has merged for sale online. Where we did is something that we usually wear a lot, which is something very comfortable and in sweats all the times, and we thought that would be a good place to start. Is something that is authentic to us and that we really wear every day and that is a place off comfort for us. So we made some very cute sports wear and it'll had a little bucket hat, a little baseball hat. Yeah, and yeah, we're very excited about that. It's a first time trying merge. Yeah, it's just the beginning. We really want to dive into bigger things, but we just, like you said it, we felt it was kind of a no brainer to just start with kind of active, where chill wear and then branch out from there. Yeah, but saw some to see the support of our our all the ways. Yeah, and to you know by the things that miss is happy. It's awesome. Their line includes hats, hoodies and t shirts. They're all available for purchase at Nicki and pierrecom. Pride is a production of...

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