Daredevil Bisexual, Jason Ellis
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Daredevil Bisexual, Jason Ellis

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Don’t judge a book by its cover. Jason Ellis definitely doesn't look like what most people would think of when they try to picture a stereotypical bisexual man. So when Jason came out, he received some heat from his listeners. People wanted him to shut up about his sexuality and go back to talking about MMA and Motocross. He lost fans. But were they really fans if they don’t support who he really is? And does he really care about fame or money? 

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Straw media. Don't judge a book by its cover. Jason Ellis looks like a stereotypical hyper masculine man, bald, burly, tattooed. He's even got a radio show that, over time, peg the nickname radio fight club. He's not exactly someone I would choose to pick a fight with, and definitely not what most people would think of when they picture a bisexual man. So when Jason came out, he received some heat from his listeners. People wanted him to shut up about his sexuality and go back to talking about MMA and motocross. He lost fans, but were they really fans if they don't support who he really is? And does he really care about fame or money? Hey, I'm dason Ellis and this is pride. Jason Ellis is a busy guy. He's been identified as a professional skateboarder, a mixed martial artist, a truck racer, a boxer and actor, a rock singer and author and a radio host. But he says skateboarding and radio are his true passions and all that other stuff that car raising. It's good. It's like a thing where if you have an agent and they write down all these things to kind of make you sound like you're in a menure, this insane athlete or whatever. I'm really not like the band was a joke because of the radio show. We made a fake band and then the band sold albums because the radio show was big. It wasn't, because where I'm a rock style, I'm not. And then Racing Kazi. I raised a little bit, you know, I raised enough to know that I'm not like that great and I've had vites, but it's not. I was really a pro skateboarder and then I got into broadcasting. That's those are the two things that I would say that. Yeah, that's my real job. Even my book, I mean New York Times best seller, it's my friend wrote it. I just told him the stories. Like I'm not that skilled. Despite Jason's modesty, he does have a really impressive set of accomplishments. In two thousand and one, he said Againnis world record for the biggest drop on a skateboard by diving down a seventy foot skateboard ramp. That's higher than the drop it splash mountain at Disneyland. Yeah, it's super high. His skateboarding career then sparked his next venture, radio he began co hosting alongside professional skateboarder Tony Hawk on his show Hawk's demolition radio on serious X at. From there he launched his own solo projects. I have the Jason Lla show podcast and we have the Jason La show Patreon, because that's what we've done since we've moved from serious XM. And then I have another podcast ass coming out with Tony Hawk on the twenty four...

...called pulk versus wolves. So now I'm a now I'm a professional podcast or when Jason's on the radio, no topic is off limits. He speaks openly to his listeners as if he was chatting with a close friend. One of the topics he has spoken about more recently is a sexuality. He came out as bisexual in two thousand and sixteen and has been sharing his story ever since, the good and the bad. At a very young age, Jason was sexually assaulted. That happened a few times in my childhood. I had a pretty rough go at it when it came to that stuff. Then, as a young teen, he began to experiment sexually with some of his friends, but it was like, you know, just like a thing that I thought you'd do we're weird your boys. And never happened again and it definitely wasn't my idea. It was just something that happened. But something did happen again a few years later. I think I took some ecstasy or something like that when I was about seventeen eighteen. Then something else happened, also not my idea. I just went with it and I was like wow, what was that? But I just always pushed it aside, never analyzed it, never really thought about it, like if anyone ever brought up in a being gay or I don't think people told about being by when I was yet, but that's that wasn't a thing that I was aware of. But it wasn't until a later I had kids and and then I got divorced and then I hang out with a couple of trans friends and then that scided to happen. Even after Jason came out, he was almost ready to quit dating all together. I don't even really want to date anybody because in the end is going to be this weird little secret that I have and I'm just going to be that's just not fair to whoever dates me, where their boyfriend is secretly halfby and depressed that he can't investigate that part of himself. Then he met his wife, Katie Gilbert. Not only did she accept his sexuality, she encouraged him to explore it. She said she was really into that, and then her friends accepted me for that. So then I had a little small community of people that were aware of my sexuality and didn't think it was funny. They actually thought it was cool. So they would like ask me to tell stories. They gave me it. They got me a grinder account and introduce feet to that, and then that made me feel better. Jason is a muscular guy. Plus he's tattooed completely from head to tell. His radio shows audience is very much reflective of how Jason appears. In a word, a lot of testosterone, tattoos, be a mean fire, motocross fighting, big boobs...

...like that's that's Jason Ellis. With the knowledge of his average listener and his own reputation, he was afraid to come out publicly. And I'M gonna be like Hey, just so you know, I may get with guys. It's it breaks, it breaks straight boys hearts, you know, I mean like and they get angry with me. So I was really scared of that and it did happen. Like people still are angry about it. It's even to this day, whenever I talk about her, I stand up for anybody Trans Rids, whatever it is it, it usually triggers a fan to you know, they tell me to shut the fuck up and and you know, like do stop putting it in my face. So initially Jason didn't come out on his show. He wasn't ready to talk directly to his listeners about his sex life, but he opened up to Howard Stern on his show. In two thousand and fifteen since I've come out and the stern show, it just made me happier with WHO I am. It makes me feel better about myself and I know that I don't have to feel bad about just being me. I'm proud of myself. I'm proud of my sexuality. is nothing wrong with it. I'm not hurting anybody. I don't tackle people in the middle of the night and do it. It's all agreed upon. I'm not a monster. Like it's not a bad thing, but it's taking me up until recently to be completely okay with that. Jason says, despite the negativity he's received since coming out. He continues to speak about his sexuality for two reasons. The first is to continue to be true to himself. The other part is doing it for the younger people out there that are potentially suicidal or just going to take a bunch of drugs and alcohol make bad choices because they think that they're something evil or something wrong. I'm talking to those people that are definitely hiding. I really like fans and I really like being popular and I wish everybody would download my podcast. But at the same time, if like four or five young kids think they're that they're they're not the devil because they heard me say, yeah, man, I suck dicks. So what? What's wrong with that? The world is making progress towards inclusion. There is more representation from the LGBTQ plus community and television, films and novels than ever before, but Jason stresses the fact that judgment and discrimination is still very much present in two thousand and twenty one. Like, if you're a younger me and you're listening to my show because you're in that community of like people that punch you in the face and stuff, and you're anything like me, you're not telling anybody doesn't matter what year it is, you're not telling shit in any smart for they're not ready. People aren't ready, and I'm almost fifty in this still a to. You hear about Ellis, like, what did I hear?...

It's like I got it, like they found out that their friend got an affliction of sort. See, I mean it and it and they better say back or they might get it in two thousand and twenty one. It's fucking annoying. But while listening to Jason's show, fans don't hear judgment. They hear grown men talking about sex, regardless of gender, and I say in front of other Macho Dudes, and those Macho dudes don't bash me or humiliate me or say something damaging, or they just continue the conversation. The more those conversations happened in my community, unfortunately, the better. These younger people are mainly guys, but who knows? Like I think you know, I get messages from everybody just saying, Holy Shit, I can't believe somebody just says it in your community, because it's still makes people uncomfortable. When met with the decision between keeping his audience and being true to himself, Jason always chose the latter. I know what it's like to be a little bit famous. It's nice, but it is also bullshit. It's not real. You don't take out with you when you die. You know, to me, as a person that's had runnings with with death where I'm like, man, this is it. You know, I thought this was it a few times. I don't have time for that. As a kid who was also in the in a dark place in my younger years, in a dangerous place where I, you know, I probably could have killed myself several times because I felt so alone with that stuff that I walked around with. If somebody, if I can help anyone, it would be you know, like I's just noble, like why would you? Why would you choose money over money in Statom over a child's life? And when you look at it like that, because to me it's the most important thing I'll ever do. If anybody wants me to tell it to anybody about what it's like trying to be a tough guy who's a bisexual guy or pansexual, whenever I am I'm ready to talk. I'm ready to talk about it. After the break sexual exploration at a young age and how Jason faced his childhood trauma to find happiness. Welcome back. Today we're talking with Jason Ellis, a pro skateboarder and radio personality. Before the break, Jason spoke about his coming out and how he values his own happiness over anything, including the success of his career. It's more important for you to you mean it, experience your life what ye're into, then somebody else's opinions. Specially when you're younger. Someone goes I you did...

...this, this and this. Trust me down the line you want remember that. That would that's not the important part. Of the important part is how did you live your life? In some parts of the country, kissing someone of the same sex is still considered taboo, and this affects many proud members of the LGBTQ plus community and those who have yet to decide. That's why I want to talk about it, because I feel like, what is the big deal? Let's say that you're not and you did kiss a boy when you were younger. So what? Easier said than done, sure, but he's speaking from experience. He doesn't want others to follow in his footsteps. He wants them to hear his story and to do better and I feel like I'm a lot gay, or that I thought and I didn't do anything for years. I don't. I still because I've now that I'm like a little bit in the community. I'm in the community with two children and a wife and an ex wife. I'm not like some gay dating machine nobody wants to I'm in. I mean like I'm not. I was, I never was in it and now that I'm like open about it, I'm still not really in it. I don't have a bunch of gay friends that I grew up with like I would say that each if you think that that's what you are, that you should live it. Jason married his first wife in two thousand and six but because he hadn't fully explored his sexuality, he felt like he was living a lie. And you've just got this one giant piece of a lie that you know that's in your pocket. It's a terrible way to exist and I, and it took took me a while from therapy, to realize that if you're going to mope around in this relationship, you're going to show your children a damaged father, and that's just you belie. You think that you're doing the right thing by staying, but you're actually not. So then, once I had the carriage to get out of that and I told her, and because she was a levelheaded person, I I wet how we broke up. I said that I was, you know, having these these thoughts in that they were eventually gonna play out. I you know, I could tell that I wasn't. It was something that I wasn't I didn't have enough control over something. It was definitely going to break and I was going to give into that. After his divorce, Jason wasn't sure what his next relationship would look like. He never imagined there would be a partner out there there was okay with the sexuality. Enter Katie. So when I met my wife Katie, that in her being not okay with it, she was attracted to it, she thought it was attractive. So it was a it was a complete one hundred and eighty where I was like, who is this person who who says that Katie gave Jason Complete Freedom to be himself? And since I've done that, I really have discovered a complete other side in myself that that...

I probably discovered it like to like a year ago, two years ago, like I feel like right now, the things that I do are. I never thought that I would do the things that I do now, and I and there are such a big part of my of my life, like it's important, fun. It just the thing that makes me feel whole. Jason and Katie are married, but they maintain an open relationship. He's allowed to be with other partners and so is she, but they always come back to each other. I really do believe that my wife is some sort of miracle human being and it's it is a fucking miracle that I have found her and I'm very fortunate, more fortunate than anybody. I know. It may not seem like it, but there's more people like Katie in this world. You just have to find the right community. This isn't just some one weird human the tons of us out there that are into stuff and very understanding about people's sexual preferences. It's just maybe not in your little community, but trust me, there's places out there where people are like, Oh, I'm into that or that's cool. I'm not, but I'd like to, you know, happy for you to check it out. Like those people exist as big, big communities of it. I think it's a certain if you're a part of that, as sooner you find it the better. We mentioned earlier that Jason is tattooed and fit. Apart from his pink tinted glasses, he's pretty intimidating and he can fight, but a lot of his appearance was a result of the trauma he endured. As I can't, I know that I have this look and I trained to defend myself because, yeah, when I was a kid, somebody will too. People kind of convince me to full around. and wasn't that in a minute and I they betrayed my trust and and they got it past me. And then if they tried to do that now, will they? They would not. They would not get what they wanted. I would have I would have won. So that's I've trained myself for this fake scenario where because I'm still baby Jason for the rest of my life. So this is now. I made this Jason to protect baby Jason Stuff. Anybody starts in a man trying to get me to blow them when I'm three, you fuck with the wrong guy. Now, Jason also sought outside help and he went to therapy. I've done a lot of work, man. I still got a lot more to go and it's all part of his journey to find happiness. I was care and you know, I just don't anything you name MDMA, that I've tried everything to try and just be happier, because the more I've been around successful people, and you know that Hollywood people,...

I've met some people that are like just really, really happy and I was like, Oh my God, this guy's not even bullshitting. He's legitimately that happy on and off in front of people. I im I want that more than I want twitter followers, like I want that's like when you get, when you've had a taste, because I feel at one point I was like if I get rich and famous, then everybody will love me, and then getting a little bit of money, getting a little bit of fame, and realizing that's not really what it is that I'm in search of, like what is what is important in life? And it's like maybe not being really good at skateboarding or, you know, having a lot of tech like this, there's probably something else. And then ever since I've discovered that, I've just been working on that and being honest with who I am and accepting others for who they are. But he wasn't always this accepting. There was a time when Jason was a lot quicker to judge a person just based on their appearance. I hated people for like fifteen years because they wore the wrong socks. That's how bad I was in skateboarding. And now you know I'm like, Oh, you know, like, what's every he probably enjoys those socks, but the hell, it's not the same person. Jason has a platform and he continues to use it to spread the same positivity and acceptance he's brought into his life to his listeners. This include speaking out for the LGBTQ plus community, especially for Trans Rights. Hey Man, I feel like the Trans Rights, like when you try to take those away doesn't really seem right. Have you met A transposed before? Maybe you should meet somebody before you just go call Im. We need to treat them different and they can't go on the bathroom like. You really should meet them before you go spouting off everywhere about that. Jason clearly does not shy away from a fight, whether it's verbally or physically. He's always been ready to take a stand and, believe it or not, he thinks many people would benefit from a fight. Any volunteers and maybe not everybody should have a fight, because some people really, really, really really don't want to have one and that would maybe be too traumatic. But if it's an organized fight, I'm talking about gentleman's or where you agree on this day we will fight, you train, I will train and then we will meet on this day and we will fight. I swear it helps everybody's confidence, and that's what I really mean is if you built, if it gives, if it's a confidence boosted that I can't name a quicker way to get more confidence in a human being than I'll let you train for three months and then you'll have a fight and then you can do whatever you want for the rest of your life. Just give me that, give me that three months, and you will remember me for the rest of your life and you will be this much more confident for the rest of your days.

I promise. And don't worry, if you did want to take Jason up on a fight, you won't get hurt, well too badly, at least I make it way. You don't get really hurt. You still get whacked in the face, but there's bigger gloves and head gear and stuff where, and you pick the right people for each other so nobody gets really hurt. So what's Jason Up to currently? Surfing, I would I'm really trying to learn a surf and I'm trying to get on my skateboard tricks back because I had really bad knees and I finally tore the last piece of my MCL off my knee so I didn't have I don't have PCL's, and I got tole meniscus, my acl stretched out and I snap my PCL al. So then I got a kid ever like a dead man's MCL in my knee, with like carbon fiber and Kevlar in my knee. So now my knee is pretty Badass. So now I'm skateboarding again, trying to get on my old skateboard tricks back from when I was in my s and s. So that is my new passion. And then I have a fight coming up in October. So I'm just doing a lot of visualization and training. It may sound like a lot, but Jason has taken a step back from some of the more dangerous activities and is choosing to be a bit more harsh has in his free time. So your motocross used to be a big thing that I sold the box. That's too dangerous to staling these other ones. Trying to be a bit of smart. Skateboarding, no moto, same thinking. Not Racing cars because they cost you much money, thinking so that you rotate. You know, it's a right. Now it's just kicking people, skateboarding, children and my wife podcast. It's not that much to connect with Jason or keep up with his adventures. He says you can always slide into his DM's my instagram at Wolf Mate and and on twitter I'm Ellis May and but in instagram if you DM me. If anybody has anything like, any questions at all, I answer everybody. I'm one of those weird people. I'll get back to you. I'm happy to be here. I love being a part of the community and if anybody in the community thinks that they can use me to help people, I am ready to go out free of charge. That's it. Thanks for listening. Pride is a production of Straw hut media. If you like the show, leave us a rating and a review on Apple,...

...podcast, spotify or wherever you're tuning in front. Share us with your friends, subscribe and follow us on Instagram, facebook and twitter at pride you can follow me at Lea by chambers. Pride is produced by me, LEA by chambers, Maggie Bowls, Ryan Tillotson and Katon MC Daniel, edited by Sebastian Alcala and Daniel forever. Sound mixing and editing by Sebastian Alcala. So then, I have a question for myself. Can I come to your fight and when are we getting lunch? Yes, yes, if really we could be we could be friends. Yeah, I'm totally vaccinated. Let's do it all, right, brain. Yeah, I'm totally I would drive up to Hollywood and have lunch.

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